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<blockquote data-quote="e18" data-source="post: 1274369" data-attributes="member: 172452"><p>Been there, done that. Min plan var att gå tillbaka till snowboard när ungarna klarade sig själva, men så blev det inte.</p><p></p><p>Jag köpte pjäxor på Blocket!?! Nyskick och nästan gratis. Hyfsad nöjd när jag fick hem dem och konstaterade efter ett sekund på foten att de var bra - men blev utrolig förvånad första turen i sittliften: What a pain!!! Efter 1 vecka åkning + uppvärming av skalet så kunde jag åka från first chair till lunch utan att skrika av smärta - nu hittar jeg ingen pjäx som är bättre (jättetur at jag inte brukte flera sekunder där i soffan). Mitt råd: Gå till en sportsaffär som har koll!</p><p></p><p></p><p>Varför inte offpist? Åka snowboard när det blir puder? Samma trodde jag - men det var innan jeg testade feta skidor i puder.</p><p></p><p>Du behöver inte titta längre. Svaret är Armada ARV JJ. Om du har plats till två par skidor tror jag det ideala skulle vara att köpa ett par SL-skidor med kort radius för att sakta carva runt med barnen, och sen blir det några dad-laps på JJ medan familjen äter sin lunch - och så klart för de mornar då pappa behöver ta några varv först för att kolla om det har snöat för mycket under natten. </p><p></p><p>Sök på Blocket och Freeride's köp & sälj.</p><p></p><p>Min slutsat bygger på - i kronologisk ordning - the story of (some of) my skis:</p><p></p><p>no 1:</p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.freeride.se/prylar/skidor/elan-999-wood.html[/URL]</p><p>bara ALU versionen. The Alu top sheet took all the beating the kids would come up with. Was amazed how its possible to stay in control on skis in all kinds of conditions and any speed. Needed a lot of speed to get to life so looked for something more family friendly.</p><p></p><p>no 2:</p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.freeride.se/prylar/skidor/elan-magfire-82-xti-2009.html[/URL]</p><p>Turns so much better than no.1 and still wide according to some - but FAR from wide enough during those lunch laps in easter slush or pow. Would have preferred an even shorter radius for slow speed carving with the kids</p><p></p><p>no 3:</p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.freeride.com/gear/skis/4frnt-ehp.html[/URL]</p><p>Discovered how incredibly fun pow skiing is on these (snowboard has been collecting dust since) but oh so boring in the piste when getting back to the lift - wanted pow skis which carves better.</p><p></p><p>no 4:</p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.freeride.com/gear/skis/volkl-two.html[/URL]</p><p>Rumors said these were decent carvers. Maybe they are, only I'm too light? - or maybe just decent carvers for their 124 mm waist? Too long radius for my taste as a piste carver</p><p></p><p>no 5:</p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.evo.com/outlet/skis/rossignol-scratch-steeze[/URL]</p><p>Got them almost for free. Plan was to use them as early-season/late-spring/ rock skis to extend the life of no 2 and no 4 - but turned out to be a real fun ski, and became my one-quiver ski for next trip to the alps. Made me realize I might never need anything less than 10 cm wide again. Want something like only newer with rocker for better pow perfomance and new bindings that does not pre-release.</p><p></p><p>no 6:</p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.evo.com/outlet/used/skis/rossignol-scratch-bling-bindings-used[/URL]</p><p>no 5 was too good to not care about so I needed a replacement for those early season/late spring rocky days. Was curious to test a real twin-tip and this was what Blocket served. I keep them for those rocky days, the rail and I to that day I'm gonna learn to butter. They're my softest and lightest ski.</p><p></p><p>no 7 - FINALLY - THE SKI - LOOK NO FURTHER</p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.freeride.se/prylar/skidor/armada-arv-jj.html[/URL]</p><p>Surfs great! Of course - just look at the shape</p><p>Carves great! It's true. I carve much better with these than Medelsvensson on his eurocarvers (but I guess that is true for everyone in this forum irrespective of ski).</p><p>What else can a snowboarder ask for? </p><p>If I had to choose only one ski - this would be it - no doubt.</p><p></p><p>Lite äldre modell men de vel bar o köp :</p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.blocket.se/annons/skaraborg/armada_jj_2_0_195/105358757[/URL]</p><p>Sen e de bar o åk</p><p>[MEDIA=youtube]RMQNPVpBywQ[/MEDIA]</p><p></p><p></p><p>Epilog.</p><p>No.1 and 3 are sold. No 2 is collecting dust - could just as well sell them. Forgot to mention Liberty Helix and Salomon Q105 which I sold to friends who I thought needed something wider than their Völkl RTM 84 - and they agreed for powder. Now their 84's are collecting dust together with my 82's.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="e18, post: 1274369, member: 172452"] Been there, done that. Min plan var att gå tillbaka till snowboard när ungarna klarade sig själva, men så blev det inte. Jag köpte pjäxor på Blocket!?! Nyskick och nästan gratis. Hyfsad nöjd när jag fick hem dem och konstaterade efter ett sekund på foten att de var bra - men blev utrolig förvånad första turen i sittliften: What a pain!!! Efter 1 vecka åkning + uppvärming av skalet så kunde jag åka från first chair till lunch utan att skrika av smärta - nu hittar jeg ingen pjäx som är bättre (jättetur at jag inte brukte flera sekunder där i soffan). Mitt råd: Gå till en sportsaffär som har koll! Varför inte offpist? Åka snowboard när det blir puder? Samma trodde jag - men det var innan jeg testade feta skidor i puder. Du behöver inte titta längre. Svaret är Armada ARV JJ. Om du har plats till två par skidor tror jag det ideala skulle vara att köpa ett par SL-skidor med kort radius för att sakta carva runt med barnen, och sen blir det några dad-laps på JJ medan familjen äter sin lunch - och så klart för de mornar då pappa behöver ta några varv först för att kolla om det har snöat för mycket under natten. Sök på Blocket och Freeride's köp & sälj. Min slutsat bygger på - i kronologisk ordning - the story of (some of) my skis: no 1: [URL unfurl="true"]https://www.freeride.se/prylar/skidor/elan-999-wood.html[/URL] bara ALU versionen. The Alu top sheet took all the beating the kids would come up with. Was amazed how its possible to stay in control on skis in all kinds of conditions and any speed. Needed a lot of speed to get to life so looked for something more family friendly. no 2: [URL unfurl="true"]https://www.freeride.se/prylar/skidor/elan-magfire-82-xti-2009.html[/URL] Turns so much better than no.1 and still wide according to some - but FAR from wide enough during those lunch laps in easter slush or pow. Would have preferred an even shorter radius for slow speed carving with the kids no 3: [URL unfurl="true"]https://www.freeride.com/gear/skis/4frnt-ehp.html[/URL] Discovered how incredibly fun pow skiing is on these (snowboard has been collecting dust since) but oh so boring in the piste when getting back to the lift - wanted pow skis which carves better. no 4: [URL unfurl="true"]https://www.freeride.com/gear/skis/volkl-two.html[/URL] Rumors said these were decent carvers. Maybe they are, only I'm too light? - or maybe just decent carvers for their 124 mm waist? Too long radius for my taste as a piste carver no 5: [URL unfurl="true"]https://www.evo.com/outlet/skis/rossignol-scratch-steeze[/URL] Got them almost for free. Plan was to use them as early-season/late-spring/ rock skis to extend the life of no 2 and no 4 - but turned out to be a real fun ski, and became my one-quiver ski for next trip to the alps. Made me realize I might never need anything less than 10 cm wide again. Want something like only newer with rocker for better pow perfomance and new bindings that does not pre-release. no 6: [URL unfurl="true"]https://www.evo.com/outlet/used/skis/rossignol-scratch-bling-bindings-used[/URL] no 5 was too good to not care about so I needed a replacement for those early season/late spring rocky days. Was curious to test a real twin-tip and this was what Blocket served. I keep them for those rocky days, the rail and I to that day I'm gonna learn to butter. They're my softest and lightest ski. no 7 - FINALLY - THE SKI - LOOK NO FURTHER [URL unfurl="true"]https://www.freeride.se/prylar/skidor/armada-arv-jj.html[/URL] Surfs great! Of course - just look at the shape Carves great! It's true. I carve much better with these than Medelsvensson on his eurocarvers (but I guess that is true for everyone in this forum irrespective of ski). What else can a snowboarder ask for? If I had to choose only one ski - this would be it - no doubt. Lite äldre modell men de vel bar o köp : [URL unfurl="true"]https://www.blocket.se/annons/skaraborg/armada_jj_2_0_195/105358757[/URL] Sen e de bar o åk [MEDIA=youtube]RMQNPVpBywQ[/MEDIA] Epilog. No.1 and 3 are sold. No 2 is collecting dust - could just as well sell them. Forgot to mention Liberty Helix and Salomon Q105 which I sold to friends who I thought needed something wider than their Völkl RTM 84 - and they agreed for powder. Now their 84's are collecting dust together with my 82's. [/QUOTE]
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