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Tjena tjena, satt och kikade lite på Sport Conrad eftersom jag hade tänkt att shoppa ett lavinpaket med transciever.
Jag har sökt runt lite på forumet och sett att många rekommenderar PIEPS DSP.
På Sport Conrad finns två modeller, den här: http://www.sport-conrad.com/page/product-detail/__/shop/prod/2411
och den här: http://www.sport-conrad.com/page/product-detail/__/shop/prod/20027

Jag som är en novis inom området förstår inte vad det är för skillnad mellan dessa två, förutom priset.
Är det så att den billigare bara är av en tidigare årsmodell men fungerar lika bra?
Eller är det helt avgörande att ha den som är lite dyrare?

Det kanske är någon som inte alls rekommenderar den här modellen och skriv i så fall gärna det.
Oavsett vilken modell jag väljer ska jag självklart träna mycket så jag blir grym på att söka.

Tacksam för svar.

Nu ska det vara olika länkar också :)
 
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Det verkar som att du har klippt in samma länk två gånger, så mellan de du länkat är det ingen som helst skillnad, inte ens priset ;)
 
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2009 Transceiver Test
Assessing the New Three-Antenna Transceivers
F. M. Swangard MD1, Bob Sayer2, Steve Gunderson3
Abstract
There has been a great deal of change since the last transceiver test which the Canadian Ski Patrol
presented in 1999.4 Transceivers have changed in their technical construction and as a result of
these changes there has been a profound change in how they are used. A number of extra features
have been added which may improve finding a buried person. We tested the most common five
new transceivers used in BC against the Ortovox F1, an older, single antenna transceiver, which is
most commonly used in BC. We first tested the transceivers with 15 certified ski guides who in
their workplace used the Ortovox F1. Each guide used all six transceivers in a simulated
avalanche.5. The times to find the two buried transmitters were recorded. We then performed the
same program with 15 high school students who had never used transceivers. We staged it so that
the novice high school students were divided into three groups, each of which used the
transceivers in a different sequence to rule out a learning advantage by using the transceivers in
the same order.
The results showed only a small difference in the times of the guide using the new models, with
the Ortovox d3 being the fastest and the F1 the slowest even though the F1 is the transceiver they
used most often. The results with the students was most interesting. Only four out of ten (two of
the three groups) were able to find the second buried transmitter within the seven minute time
limit using the Ortovox F1. All students were able to find all the targets with their new model
transceivers in their test group. The fastest times were with the Ortovox S1which was slightly
faster than the Ortovox d3, Mammut Pulse, Tracker DTS, and the Pieps DSP which finished in
that order and quite close together. Clearly the new transceivers are much better in the hands of a
novice or irregular user.
Key Words: Avalanche; Transceiver; Avalanche Beacon; Ortovox; Mammut; Pieps;
Tracker.

1 Canadian Ski Patrol System Life Member, Canadian Delegate to the International commission of Alpine Rescue.
2 President of the Canadian Ski Guide Association, Associate Delegate to the International commission of Alpine
Rescue.
3 Member and Board Member Canadian Ski Patrol System, Greater Vancouver Zone and Avalanche training officer
for B.C.
4 Canadian Ski Patrol System (CSPS) Transceiver Test 1999 presented at IKAR.
5 Training material taken from the user manual of each Transceiver.
 
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Materials and Methods
We received four transceivers from Mammut (Pulse) and Pieps (DSP). Mountain Equipment
Coop loaned us four Tracker DTS. Ortovox sent us four d3's and four S1's. We borrowed four
Ortovox F1 transceivers from the Canadian Ski Patrol System, Greater Vancouver Zone. We also
borrowed the Ortovox remote-controlled test system (five transmitters which can be remotely
turned on and off) from Mike Wiegele Heli Ski Resort at Blue River, BC.
The first session took place at Mike Wiegele's Resort in Blue River, using the heli-ski guides as
knowledgeable testers. These guides and their clients use the Ortovox F1. We created a simulated
avalanche 30 x 50 metres in size and buried the transmitters across the run-out area. The
transceiver manufacturers' instructions for use of each transceiver were given to each tester prior
to using each transceiver. We randomly turned on two of the five Ortovox transmitters then let
each tester (guide) enter at the top end of the “avalanche" to start a search grid until a signal
was received, at which time they were to follow the instructions from the applicable transceiver
manufacture. The time was measured from the entry until finding the second transmitter. Two
different test transmitters were switched on for every test. The results are shown in Appendix 1.
The second session took place at Hemlock Resort just east of Mission, BC. We created a
simulated avalanche 30 x 50 metres in size and buried the five Ortovox test transmitters across the
run-out area at the base of the “avalanche." The 15 students were divided into three groups and
each group had a different sequence of transceivers to test (to remove a learning effect whereby
the use of first transceivers could lead to improved times with the later transceivers). Using the
transceiver manufactures instructions, the groups were given a 30-minute instruction course with
practice prior to the testing of each transceiver. Two of the five test transmitters were switched on
and each novice tester was started at the top of the “avalanche," where a normal search pattern
was followed until a signal was received, at which time the instructions from the applicable
transceiver were followed. The time was measured from “avalanche" entry to marking of the
second transmitter. Two different test transmitters were switched on for every test. A time limit of
seven minutes was set to find the second transmitter. If this was not achieved the test was
declared as “not found." The results are shown in Appendix 2.
Results
In the hands of a knowledgeable user there was only a small difference in search times between
the two-antenna and the newer three-antenna transceivers. The fastest was the Ortovox d3 (avg 1
minute 13 sec), then the Tracker (1minute 35 sec), the Pieps (1 minute 36 sec), the Ortovox S1 (1
minute 38 sec) and the Mammut (1 minute 47 sec). The slowest was the Ortovox F1 (at a still
respectable 1 minute 56 sec). The standard deviation (STDEV) shows how much variation there
was in the times and a low number suggests a more consistent ease of use, ranging from the
Ortovox S1 at :23, Ortovox d3 at :31, Tracker at :32, Pieps at :36, Mammut at :47, and the
Ortovox F1 at 1:07. In the hands of an expert user there appears to be little difference in the
results using the multi-antenna transceivers and all are faster than the F1 which is nearing two
decades of use.
6 Time Is Life Video from the International Commission of Alpine Rescue (www.IKAR-CISA.org)
7 Canadian Avalanche Centre (www.avalanche.ca)
 
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The results from the naive users are very interesting! Six out of ten testers failed to find the two
targets using the Ortovox F1 in the allotted time. All the naive users did much better using the two
and three-antenna transceivers. The fastest was the Ortovox S1 (2 minutes 59 sec), the Ortovox d3
(3 minutes 21 sec), Mammut (3 minutes 25 sec), the Tracker (3 minutes 26 sec,) and the Pieps (3
minutes 34 sec).
Discussion
Both the guides and naive users liked the ease of use and the marking of multiple burials on the
screen of the Ortovox S1. The screen of the Ortovox S1 did not seem to be affected by the cold (at
times -15C to -20C). The Ortovox d3 was very easy to use but not as easy to find multiple burials
as the S1. Both the Ortovox model S1 and d3 also had the best attachment systems.
The Mammut Pulse worked well when correctly set up. It seemed to have too many parameters to
set and really needs a lock function to stop a desired setting from being changed. The authors also
feel that the “Pulse" feature should not be used on ethical grounds because of questionable
reliability. The attachment system is good.
The Pieps DSP worked well but the on-off slider switch which sticks out from the transceiver
seemed to present a risk of being easily broken. We also found the deactivation of the transceiver
with the special probe presents a risk of abandonment of the buried person if the transceiver is
turned off and the probe were to be removed by a person not knowing what had been done. We
would advise not to use this feature. The attachment system was not as easy to use as the others.
The Tracker DTS did better than we expected as a two-antenna transceiver being compared to
three-antenna models. The pinpointing with this transceiver was more difficult than with a threeantenna transceiver. The authors expect this company will update their transceiver in the near
future. When this is done we recommend they also update their attachment system, which was
determined to be the poorest.
Conclusions
Any transceiver is better than none! The new three-antenna transceivers are faster in finding a
buried person in an avalanche than the older single antenna transceiver. This is especially true for
the naive user. Guides or guiding companies using anything other than three-antenna transceivers
should consider upgrading. The simpler the transceiver is to use the better. Extra functions such
as the pulse detection with the Mammut and the probe switch with the Pieps may have serious
ethical problems and detract from the primary goal—find and rescue the buried person.
The “Test Box" from Ortovox for the Ortovox S1 appears to be a very good way to assure full
function of each S1 transceiver prior to its use. This will be especially useful for larger operations
such as heli and snow cat companies and rescue organizations.
Disclosures
This study was not supported financially or materially by any of the transceiver manufacturers
whose equipment was used in this study. The authors, Swangard, Sayer and Gunderson have no
 
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financial ties or conflict to disclose.
We would like to thank Ortovox, Mammut, Pieps and Mountain Equipment Coop for loaning us
the transceivers. We would also like to thank Mike Wiegele Helicopter Ski Resort and Hemlock
Ski Resort for providing us with staff and mechanical support. Thanks also to the Canadian Ski
Patrol System, Greater Vancouver Zone which provided testing, training and support without
which we could not have completed this program. We would also like to thank the Mennonite
Educational Institute (a high school in Abbotsford British Columbia) and the 15 wonderful
(naive) test subjects who volunteered for this study.
 
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