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<blockquote data-quote="termons" data-source="post: 1198523" data-attributes="member: 46857"><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.outsideonline.com/2329041/chamonix-zermatt-alps-haute-route-disaster[/URL]</p><p></p><p>En bra sorglig story för alla som rör sig i bergen.</p><p></p><p>"The group also seems to have fallen into a trap known as the expert halo. On their own, the eight skiers were all experienced enough to check weather, research the route, and question the decision to set out in the first place. But because they’d hired an expert guide, they surrendered their decision-making to his. “We just did the trip, not planning. He was supposed to plan,” Piccioli said. “And this probably was a weakness from us. When you self-organize, you really care about things like maps and weather. But once you have a guide…,” his voice trailed off, and he sighed. “Nobody said anything because, probably, they all trusted him. Including me. They all trusted him and said, ‘OK, we’re just following him.’”</p><p></p><p>That is perhaps the biggest takeaway from the tragedy. “If I have something wrong and go to the doctor, I don’t just blindly trust that they’re making all the right decisions,” Remsberg said. “And I think people should approach the mountains that way, even if they’re hiring a guide to take them out. I would encourage people not to blindly hand over all responsibility to the guide, but to be a team member in the setting and approach it that way.”</p><p></p><p>Annat reportage.</p><p></p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.spiegel.de/international/europe/that-s-it-we-re-dead-disaster-strikes-along-the-alps-haute-route-a-1220184-amp.html[/URL]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="termons, post: 1198523, member: 46857"] [URL unfurl="true"]https://www.outsideonline.com/2329041/chamonix-zermatt-alps-haute-route-disaster[/URL] En bra sorglig story för alla som rör sig i bergen. "The group also seems to have fallen into a trap known as the expert halo. On their own, the eight skiers were all experienced enough to check weather, research the route, and question the decision to set out in the first place. But because they’d hired an expert guide, they surrendered their decision-making to his. “We just did the trip, not planning. He was supposed to plan,” Piccioli said. “And this probably was a weakness from us. When you self-organize, you really care about things like maps and weather. But once you have a guide…,” his voice trailed off, and he sighed. “Nobody said anything because, probably, they all trusted him. Including me. They all trusted him and said, ‘OK, we’re just following him.’” That is perhaps the biggest takeaway from the tragedy. “If I have something wrong and go to the doctor, I don’t just blindly trust that they’re making all the right decisions,” Remsberg said. “And I think people should approach the mountains that way, even if they’re hiring a guide to take them out. I would encourage people not to blindly hand over all responsibility to the guide, but to be a team member in the setting and approach it that way.” Annat reportage. [URL unfurl="true"]https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.spiegel.de/international/europe/that-s-it-we-re-dead-disaster-strikes-along-the-alps-haute-route-a-1220184-amp.html[/URL] [/QUOTE]
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