TomFromAustria2011
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Out of a garbage, Perkal !Perkal sa:
Fashionable poles are not needed when raxing down some wild couloir like
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Fashionable poles are not needed when raxing down some wild couloir like
Carled
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100% of the accidents occur within the 100% that is skiing. At the time being, people skiing on RaxSkis is such a small number that you can't use safe skiing as an argument. I know that you have great problems understanding how we are reasoning (you seem to have problem with anyone's reasoning...) but I'll put it like this:TomFromAustria2011 sa:
If everyone would be skiing on RaxSkis, 100% of the accidents would be while skiing on RaxSkis.
And why is every picture we se a cut-off regular ski with angled metal work attached in the tail? Is the production process just cutting a ski in half, enabling the tail to move freely (from the tip) and the attach the "fins"?
TomFromAustria2011
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2PE0crGKnqg]Rax[/MEDIA] video 2011Tompan14 sa:
The last couloir in this clip (the one in the shadow) was about as steep as the photo.
There was a danger of avalanche there. The second skier in this chute used the "the best material - big mountain skis" and "the best technique - jump turns" - and immediately released a small avalanche.
The reason is that "raxing" = riding in the fall line causes nearly constant pressure on the snow surface.
In great contrast to jump turns.
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Utter
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Ok, I'm starting to get annoyed.
First of all, that aint a chute. Second, that aint steep. Jump turns is something they did in the 80's (unless it's 20-30 degrees steeper than that clip), now you just ski down it, nothing special.
First of all, that aint a chute. Second, that aint steep. Jump turns is something they did in the 80's (unless it's 20-30 degrees steeper than that clip), now you just ski down it, nothing special.
TomFromAustria2011
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If everyone would be skiing on RaxSkis, 100% of the accidents would be while skiing on RaxSkis.Carled sa:
That\\\'s it. Carled! Yet no logic will help you to deduce whether there will be less or more injuries
after the human race abandons the era of \\\"carvers\\\".
Yeah, we are not simply cutting skis of our competitors. Rax ski bases are manufactured with inserts to bear metal brackets.
TomFromAustria2011
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So do we, Utter ! As close to all-line a possible - it's adrenaline. That's the heritage of "Firngleiter".Utter sa:
But explain me the the fact that the majority of conventional freeriders around me perform jump turns ?
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TomFromAustria2011
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Give me DEEP POW, Rose_N and will show you how to rax it!Rose_N sa:
I have not seen POW for ages in that part of Austria we are skiing.
In powder you can try even MONO RAX like
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You surround yourself with worthless skiers I guess.TomFromAustria2011 sa:
Does it look like I'm doing jump turns? This is far steeper than the slope in your video btw. And this is how all the skiers I ski with ride.
And show me someone doing that on your glorified snowlerblades.
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TomFromAustria2011
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I would "tomahawk" it down.mholm sa:
The TGR extreme rider\"jump turn" (he is a resident of Franconia, NH)
is convinced that RaxSki is the best gear for such a couloir.
RaxSki may be worse than big-mountain for big air and huge jumps from cliffs
but it is superior for all steep narrow chutes with any snow/ice
as the fins give you really the HIGH-GRIP.
Nojlas
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They're old, conservative and are not as good skiers as they think they are?TomFromAustria2011 sa:
Sorry Tom, but jump turns is something you use very rarely, and only when it's so steep you're about to crap your pants. It's NOT a way to ski a whole line.
When it comes to big mountain skiing, it's all about high speeds, big turns, powder, and maybe jumping off one or two cliffs. The picture from Utter is a perfect example of that.
TomFromAustria2011
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1) It is certainly NOT, it just looks like.Utter sa:
2) First: RaxSki is not snowblade.
Second: do you really think I would not ride it down ? The same trace ?
But I would wait at the top until you shake down the avalanche and then I would save your life.
We love riding on old avalanches - that's another speciality of RaxSkis.
Have you ever tried it ?
TomFromAustria2011
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Nojlas,Nojlas sa:
in a chute as narrow as 3meters or so and as steep as 55°+
the long big-mountain ski lets you just 2 options
- jump turns (you see them on mHolm's video) or
- harakiri
The same is true for steep woods.
Utter's slope is not that extreme.
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Oh, I wasn't aware of the fact you know that run better than me. Impressive considering it's me skiing it... (that was sarcasm if your inbred walnut of a brain didn't pick that up).TomFromAustria2011 sa:
No you wouldn't ride down in my tracks on your snowlerblades (they are just that, doesn't matter how much you try to deny it). Do you see an avalanche in the pic? No you aint dumbass.
Hasse_Lindborg
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Is it working for race like this: http://freeskiingworldtour.com/live.html ???
TomFromAustria2011
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Are you saying that RaxSki is not able to turnRose_N sa:
or that RaxSki prefers the fall-line ?
The latter is true.
Are you really going to take me to some pow ?
Well it would be nice to escape my real world- selling skis, fixing bindings, screwing, talking to patent attorneys, drilling, managing...
Surfing down powder on hydrofoils named RaxSki...
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Oh shit! What f***k is this? This is by far the strengest thing i have ever seen. It looks like a combo of a pair of snowblades, a monoski and somthibg you made in handicraft...TomFromAustria2011 sa:
I really think you must be some kind superhero to ski this... Love it!
You just dosen't stop to suprise me Tom.
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TomFromAustria2011
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Utter, please mind that rear fins are a real thing, however strong you wish they would not be that.Utter sa:
These fins can be attached to any snow-going vehicle. Generally they bring better snow-grip (or ice-grip) and as a consequence better direction control.
Snowlerblades have no fins. They are as flat as any normal ski, just short.
But if you want to insult RaxSki you are free to call even this \"gun\" a snowlerblade
TomFromAustria2011
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Thank you, Adam. The monstrum on the pic is....MonoSki with Rax fins = MonoRaxAdamClaeson sa:
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Ok, now i get a bit annoyed!!!TomFromAustria2011 sa:
First of all, it's pretty obvious that you know nothibg about todays skiing. A tip is that you leave the workshop once a while and go out and ski and talk to the skiers. If you dont have time you can always look at todays skimovies.
Second, and this makes me angry! If you say that Raxski would be safer then regular skies you are coco and know accactly nothing about avalances. It could just as easily been the Raxskier who could start the avalanche...
Yes, I know pretty much about avalances...
Third, ..."the best technique - jump turns" yeah, that's really the best technique... Take a lesson before you start talking freeriding with freeriders on a Freeride webpage... Hmmph
In the fourth, the little confidence I had for you are now blown away when it turns out that you do not know much about skiing. Yet you have researched this for five years?!?
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TomFromAustria2011
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If you write this sentence on TetonGravity forum,Tompan14 sa:
Suit, the Admin will throw you away.
NJohansson
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\"Screwing\".. *Fniss fniss*TomFromAustria2011 sa:
AdamClaeson
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Sorry Tom, it was not a compliment I gave you. Thought you saw the irony ...TomFromAustria2011 sa:
TomFromAustria2011
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Well, Utter and Nojlas are just sayingAdamClaeson sa:
"Jump turns are something they did in the 80's" and "worthless skiers perform them"
- and I like what they are saying.
You are right - in the last 5 years I have done nothing reasonable but - invented this RaxSki.
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...Yeah, maby not 55° - but look at that speed. He's ripping it!TomFromAustria2011 sa:
Utter's picture shows the essence of what big mountain skiing is today. Full speed, big turns, open fields, cliffdrops. That's what it's all about 2011 IMO.
I'm sure your skis are great doing tight turns at low speeds. But if you're trying to convince us you can do this kind of skiing with your skis - you better show us a video or sweet pictures of someone truly shredding a steep face.
(I hope you don't take my text as sarcastic... I just still have very hard to believe fins could replace the tail of a ski.)
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I have also been thinking alot about the problem with having to make turns in steep tight chutes. So I invented something that will also make it possible to straightline a 65 degree chute, quite similar to the way your ratskis works.
This will actually be a sort of world premiere for the new "steepskier". Since it is still in the development stage I can only show an animated picture, but I think you will be able to see the fundamental thoughts about my brand new product.
I can also give you an explanation in how it works:
You simply attach a coil with adjustable resistance to your backpack, then you fix an anchor to either the mountain peak or something other really heavy on the mountain. Then you simply set your skis in the right direction and and loosen the resistance in the steepskier.
I think ratskis and steepskier would be an unbeatable combination. Imagine taking down a 90 degree wall, you wouldn´t even need poles..
(Sorry for my poor english but I hope my message is clear: If you take a real good thing, make it unusable and then give it breaks enough to take away all the speed, then you can use it to anything..)
This will actually be a sort of world premiere for the new "steepskier". Since it is still in the development stage I can only show an animated picture, but I think you will be able to see the fundamental thoughts about my brand new product.
I can also give you an explanation in how it works:
You simply attach a coil with adjustable resistance to your backpack, then you fix an anchor to either the mountain peak or something other really heavy on the mountain. Then you simply set your skis in the right direction and and loosen the resistance in the steepskier.
I think ratskis and steepskier would be an unbeatable combination. Imagine taking down a 90 degree wall, you wouldn´t even need poles..
(Sorry for my poor english but I hope my message is clear: If you take a real good thing, make it unusable and then give it breaks enough to take away all the speed, then you can use it to anything..)
TomFromAustria2011
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I appreciate your approach, Nojlas and we know we must manufacture at least two big models of RaxSki as soon as possible. There are just few prototypes of this Big Rax for "full speed, big turns, open fields,...". They make you feel you were riding a surfboard over waves.Nojlas sa:
As a "graduate" of TGR I like sarkasm but it must be accompanied by absolute honesty and realism.
Fins will not replace the ski tail but rather enhance the ski edges. Side-wall fins actually extend the geometry of the edge backwards. These vertical fins created the 3rd dimension to the traditionaly flat ski.
nilshannes2
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http://www.tradera.com/retro-SNOWBL...ult-BIG-FOOT-kneissl-auktion_250902_127229274
can i get those with fins?
(and also a note on the reference page. You have cut the quote from boston globe in a way that makes it sound as if they actually skied the thing, which they according to the article... didnt. I hope you know that that sort of behaviour could get you into serious trouble, you should know this if you have a doctor-title since that means you have written texts with references before...)
seriously tho, as i see it Tom, when it comes to the steep couloirs above(in the clip), which i wouldnt dare claim id attempt, partly because i dont like climbing, partly because its insanely steep..... I see one major problem for your skis there.
If i understand the concept of the fin, it is to bring the tip of the ski towards the fall-line more easily. atleast, that is obviously what the fins do.( your physics again, the binding is the axis, speed aplied to the fins, they turn the ski forwards, very simple)
and THAT is exactly what you dont want to do on a that steep and narrow slope.... for one pretty obvious reason, it kills you.
am I wrong?
can i get those with fins?
(and also a note on the reference page. You have cut the quote from boston globe in a way that makes it sound as if they actually skied the thing, which they according to the article... didnt. I hope you know that that sort of behaviour could get you into serious trouble, you should know this if you have a doctor-title since that means you have written texts with references before...)
seriously tho, as i see it Tom, when it comes to the steep couloirs above(in the clip), which i wouldnt dare claim id attempt, partly because i dont like climbing, partly because its insanely steep..... I see one major problem for your skis there.
If i understand the concept of the fin, it is to bring the tip of the ski towards the fall-line more easily. atleast, that is obviously what the fins do.( your physics again, the binding is the axis, speed aplied to the fins, they turn the ski forwards, very simple)
and THAT is exactly what you dont want to do on a that steep and narrow slope.... for one pretty obvious reason, it kills you.
am I wrong?
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on a sidenote, I would like trying these things and im sure a majority of the others in this thread feel the same way.
for us that would be an opportunity to laugh at you, for you it would be an opportunity to prove us wrong.
is there any chance you could maybe please get a few of them up to next late autumns/early winters skitests in Åre?
good place to get attention for you as well, great i would even call it.
for us that would be an opportunity to laugh at you, for you it would be an opportunity to prove us wrong.
is there any chance you could maybe please get a few of them up to next late autumns/early winters skitests in Åre?
good place to get attention for you as well, great i would even call it.
AdamClaeson
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Öööööh, is it?!? I do not. Anyone else doing this? If i make an eleven, it´s because the fun of it.TomFromAustria2011 sa:
AdamClaeson
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Yeah, like big-mountain skies you meen?TomFromAustria2011)[/quote sa:
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Good point Nils! If they are to test the Åre/Trysil/Hemsedal next winter, I will definitely try them. Just to see how they are to ski on. But just as you Nils I dont think that they will never replace a "real" ski.nilshannes2 sa:
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"Mono-rax" was a "give-away", otherwise, nicely done Tom!
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You see Tom, this is your problem.TomFromAustria2011 sa:
You need to learn more about today's skiing! It dosen´t matter how much you know about yesterday's skiing, if you do not keep up with how the sport develops and what the athletes want, you will always be one step behind...
It seems that you are just out and skiing with your friends from the 80's and that none of you have developed. Perhaps you are good for the "old schools". This, perhaps you are happy with and then it's ok. My speculation for this is based on because of your riding style, how you dress and how you talking about the sport. Sometimes you say things that make the most of this thread jaw-dropping. Another thing is your monoski... Hi 80's!!!
You have not been out in the hill yourself and seen how the sport has evolved. To be honest with you it feels like that your product is in about 10-20 years to late. If you had launched Raxski say, 1985, 1990, you may have had a greater impact. The ski just not attracts today's skiers. Apart from a small, small group of people. I apologize if I hurt anyone's feelings now and no, this does not apply to everyone. But in Sweden we have a "problem" on the slopes - the Danish skiers. They often have no etiquette on the slopes and more than many are completely sold on Snowblades. These could be an opening for you. Another target could be "the Paris-people" Yes, they are also stuck in the 80´s.
But it's not just the product itself that makes the product feel old. That is the whole image around it. Rider in cardigans that grandma has knitted, shirtless men in 80th century clothing, riding style of skiers of all movies, awkward comments like "Just Rax it" is not cool.
Another thing that the skiers in your films is that they even don't have particularly good technique. I see several "mistakes" they're doing. Using, or rather not use the poles is one of them...
It would be very interesting to know about your USP:ar (Uniq Selling Points)?
Are you present Raxski in other forums? What is the response there?
How do you market Raxski?
Tip:
1, Get out in reality and see what it looks like...
2, Do you want your product to sell contact a really good advertising agency and PR agency and be prepared to pay for it!
3, NEVER EVER Promote Raxski as it would be safer than an ordinary ski in the off-piste. In that case, at least I will hold you responsible of any deaths. Skiers generally know very little about avalanches and just in case someone with a little bit of avalanche-knowledge think that it is safer to Raxski this could have very unfortunate outcome ... Do you want to be responsible for it?
4, try to sell your patents (if anyone would be interesting, maybe some company that manufactures snowblades) and do something else. I promise you, this product will not go big. – Why then, you may now ask me. I say again –It inhibits skiing instead of developing it.
This I say not to be sarcastic or to carp down on your life's work (as it seems) but there is a wellknown expression - kill your darlings.
